Q&A: Should God love equally those who cheerfully sin and those who wish to be good?

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Question by Sara: Should God love equally those who cheerfully sin and those who wish to be good?
Say God were just a parent, and He has one little two-year-old child who does wrong without remorse because that child just hadn’t learned sympathy yet.
He also has a four-year-old who has passed that stage and now is kind to other children and animals.
Should he love the one less and the other more?
Would He be more wise to just help the younger one see what he does wrong, gently?
People are like that, some spiritually childish and some spiritually mature.
Would beating and torturing the two-year-old serve His purpose?

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Answer by Steve R
There are no such things as gods, angels, spirits, demons, devils, witches, ghosts, goblins, fairies, mermaids, leprechauns, elves, or unicorns. These are fictional characters from ancient mythology. Sin is just a religious invention designed to make it easier to manipulate ignorant people by making them feel guilty and inferior for simply being human.

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He should probably see about EXISTING, first…

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The fact that it is too stupid to solve the social problems and had to resort to creating laws that favor the haves, says its either a complete moron, or its the hand of greedy man. What sort of law does ‘don’t thieve’ solve. It creates sinners. Anyone with an ounce of intelligence would come up with something better than that, how about ‘don’t have more than you can use’.

Practicing Shaman… quantum physics rocks

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Children under the age of eight are not accountable for there sins, If they die God takes them unto his own to be with him .If a child has a learning disability and does not know right from wrong that child has a free pass into heaven. But for us that know right from wrong we are accountable for our actions. And in order for us to return to live with our Heavenly Father we must follow the example of Jesus Christ and in keeping the commandments for there be no other way. Only thru and in the name of Jesus Christ can man kind be saved and there be no other way.

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You ask “SHOULD He … ” which isn’t a legitimate question, because He already says He does. But He can not do anything that He shouldn’t do, so yes, He should.

Remember this though, every Christian is a sinner who has been forgiven, cleansed of sins, and adopted into His Forever Family.

Before becoming a Christian, except for those who come to know Jesus at a VERY early age, everybody starts out at the age of accountability as a sinner. If He “SHOULD” not love sinners, then we are all doomed!

I’m a sinner saved by grace from a lifestyle of drugs, booze, etc.

What kind of sinner are you?

Remember the story of the Prodigal Son? The elder brother was angry and jealous over the greeting his father had for the returning son who had first rebelled.

But remember also, that we aren’t children. We are fully mature adults who reject God and spit in His face (metaphorically speaking)!

God IS the Judge, remember, and His offer to pardon us for our sins is only good in THIS life.

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God is not a parent. He is God, the creator and almighty. He knows the ones who are His and those are the ones He loves. The ones He loves He saves in-spite of our sin. We aren’t saved by doing good deeds, we’re saved through free grace. Once saved He puts His spirit in us, therefore christians will not beat and torture a child.

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It’s really hard to imagine the love of god. It is infinitely infinite in potential. His love is more an internal experience than an external expression. We are that externalized love…so, the question becomes, can we love those who cheerfully sin and those who wish to be good?, eh?

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From the perspective of metempsychosis taught by Pythagoras I think, it is likely that at some time period before we arrived here we were cheerful sinners.

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There is something I believe they call it spiritual accountability. Children are not held accountable for their sins. I read one group said the age was 13 years old. The old testament didn’t count men as men until the age of 20. When you are talking about spiritual maturity you are talking about adult matters. Spiritual maturity can take years of study and mentor-ship by the Holy Spirit. Moses was 40 years in the wilderness before God called him to service. David was on the run from Saul for years as he grew in faith and devotion to God. Jesus was 40 days in the wilderness before his ministry began. You discipline children with love and consistency not beatings and torture. God loves us all equally. We are saved by grace through faith not by works so that none can brag. We do good because we love God not so that we can somehow make God love us more. God loved us while we were still sinners and sent Jesus to die for us so that we could have life and have it more abundantly. When you talk about works and God loving us more or less based on our personal works and goodness you are talking about self-righteousness. The idea that you can save yourself. It is a particular trait of the Pharisees that God hated and was based on pride of self which he also spoke against. If we could save ourselves, Jesus didn’t have to die on the cross.

Your question doesn’t sound like the question of a spiritually mature Christian. If you are beating your 2 year old in the name of God, I think you need to discuss discipline and doctrine with your nearest local pastor or priest. Parenting classes are very good in helping parents tame the terrible twos. You cannot compare one child to another. Some are born content and cooperative. Some are not. Sometimes brighter, inquisitive kids are tougher to handle but the rewards for success are great.

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Gods love is like infinity. Infinity plus one is still infinity. It is love without measure! It is an absolute!
It serves the form of the object it supports, regardless of human evaluation of deservingness.

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Well, you know Sara, that God is a parent but the difference is that He can read our hearts, so if that were to occur, He would know how to react, unlike us, who cannot read hearts.

Perhaps we can take the the picture with Abel and Cain who both gave equally to God, but Abel was the one that found favour with His Creator and this was because of his heart condition. He appreciated His Creator and knew his own limitations, but Cain was the opposite, so God loved Abel far more than Cain.

If God was an imperfect human being, he would endeavour to treat each child the same way, but no doubt would concentrate on the young child.

So, the answer is that our Creator turns His Back on those that do not care.

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God loves all equally, it is ones own behavior/conduct that determines ones ‘fate’ including reaping the benefits of God’s love.

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Love isn’t something God ‘does’, but rather Love is what God Is. That changes every dynamic of how that Love is expressed. It isn’t anything like the love human beings express until that individual awakens in the state of God’s Being which is the Love. Till then love is an action rather than a state of being. That’s how it appears to me. Namaste’

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Yes, God loves all equally. God is gracious. That means that He loves us even when we do not deserve to be loved.

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“Condemn the sin and not the sinner.”

There is so much more to this simple reminder of Love. Why is Love, which is given to us so graciously, rationed out by our judgments of others when we ourselves are equally imperfect?

Did Christ Yeshua not say:

“Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.”
“Why to point to the speck in your brother’s eye when you can’t see the plank in your own?”
“Why do you call me good? Only the Father in Heaven is good.”

God loves all equally. It is only our personal judgments & subsequent condemnations that do not.

Forgive us Father, fore we know not what we do.

Blessings

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Those who transgress deliberately should not be loved equally as those who are kind, unless they sincerely repent to Him.
Why should He? When he has equipped men with heart filled with conscience and the mind to think, men shouldn’t be ignorant and defy His existence. There is no such thing as spiritually childish, it’s just plain ignorant.

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